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Redline Series => Redline Equalizer => Topic started by: neilwilkes on May 22, 2014, 05:04:13 PM

Title: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: neilwilkes on May 22, 2014, 05:04:13 PM
Before I go into details, I must say that it works just fine under version 5.5.6, but under 6.0.7 it will not even initialize (always added to the Nuendo blacklist as it crashes the application to desktop on plugin scan at Redline EQ) and in 6.5 it initializes but causes crashes regularly.

The difference is that I have added a Yamaha Nuage system - could this cause such issues?
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: nousch on May 22, 2014, 06:09:18 PM
We have to check that out. What about the other 112dB plugins, no problems there?

--nousch
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: orbit1 on May 28, 2014, 06:37:08 PM
I get the same thing with Cubase 7.5.

Loading the plugin seems to be ok in a new project, but anything else crashes cubase. If I try to unload the plugin after loading it, cubase crashes. If a project has the plugin within, the cubase will crash on project load.

No problems with redline reverb, or pre-amp, but I do have a similar issue with the big blue limiter which crashes whenever I change the lookahead.

Its such a shame because I've grown to love the sound of the redline EQ but its unusable.
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: martijn on May 28, 2014, 07:07:17 PM
Are we talking about Windows or Mac here?

I have to admit we only have Cubase 7 at 112dB to test on... We'll get 7.5 first thing in the morning!!!

-Martijn-
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: orbit1 on May 28, 2014, 09:01:11 PM
OSX 10.9 for me.

Redline EQ also crashes Ableton 9.1 on detection and is thus unavailable.
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: martijn on May 28, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
That Ableton Live we do have ;-)

Is it the 32 or 64 bit that crashes or both?
Is it the VST or AU that crashes or both?

Sometimes on OSX our plists occasionally get corrupted and cause this kind of trouble. Deleting these files quite often resolve the issue. After deleting you will have to reauthorize the plugin with your authorization file.

These files are located in: ~/Library/Preferences

In the Finder's "Go" menu choose: "Go to Folder" and paste: "~/Library/Preferences/"

Delete these files:

com.112dB.Redline.Equalizer.Preferences.Authorization.plist
com.112dB.Redline.Equalizer.Preferences.plist
com.112dB.Redline.Equalizer.Preferences.Preferences.plist

Restart your Mac. (this really is necessary sins Lion)

Please let me know if this improved the situation.

On Windows these preferences are stored in the Registry. To reset them use the uninstaller in programs and features in the control panel. Than reinstall the plugin.

I'm not shore if this will resolve anything on the Windows and but would like to know if it did not indeed just to write that off... But ya never know...

Regards,

-Martijn-


Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: neilwilkes on May 29, 2014, 06:00:34 AM
Hi Martijn.

With apologies for the incomplete summary - for some reason I assumed that you had my DAW specs stashed away, and I should know better than to assume anything at all.
My se4tup is a 64-bit Windows 7 Pro SP1. It's the 64-bit version in a 64-bit host and in Nuendo 6.5 & Cubase 7.5, the situation was utterly dire. For some reason (I know not why, and it might even be a Steinberg issue) Redline EQ is now dreadfully unstable.
I will try with Big Blue Compressor & the redline Preamp as well as Redline Reverb (will go snag me a license for that one in a minute) and I will report back later today.

Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: martijn on June 06, 2014, 09:13:33 PM
Hey Neil,

Just upgraded to Cubase 7.5.20. So far it seems all 112dB plugs run fine here...

Could you describe how the often and when the problems occur and how they look like?

Did you try uninstalling the plugin with the uninstaller and than reinstall it? (this zaps the registry entries, you will have to reenter your license file)

Thanks for your help!!!

-Martijn-
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: orbit1 on July 02, 2014, 09:35:44 AM
Hi Martijn,

I find that redlineEQ crashes every time on project load in Cubase 7.5.20 (64bit) OSX 10.9.

There's a 50/50 chance of Cubase crashing that whenever I load the plugin on a project that hasn't previously had redlineEQ.

I've deleted the .plists that you specified but the problem still continues.
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: martijn on July 02, 2014, 02:41:17 PM
Ok, this is not good and has my full attention now...

So you say:

The Redline EQ is causing various types of crashes in Cubase. Some times when deleting an instance, sometimes it already crashes when just loading a project containing the plugin.

Right?

Questions:

Does this happen when you open or close the gui?
Or do something causing the gui to open or close?

If you would first close the Redline EQ before you save your project, does it load than without crashing?

Do you still have the crash where changing the lookahead in the Limmiter?

Regards,

-Martijn-

Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: orbit1 on July 03, 2014, 08:44:02 AM
Hi Martijn,

I just tried the following.


I repeated the process twice and it would crash consistently.

I also tried unloading the plugin while the gui was not open and it would unload fine and not crash. This might explain why some older projects crash on load - the gui might have been left open and thus crash cubase.

I will experiment with big blue later today.

Its such a shame, I love the sound of redlineEQ but I can't seem to use it reliably. :(
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: neilwilkes on July 03, 2014, 11:43:28 AM
I'll be all over this later today on PC as well.
It does sound horribly familiar though.
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: martijn on July 04, 2014, 08:35:28 PM
I had one crash but could not reproduce it... Opened and close the plugin many times... Saved opened and did it again.

We will continue to investigate this.

Could you send me a crash log?

Do you have a simple Project where i need to do one more step to make it crash?

-Martijn-
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: orbit1 on July 09, 2014, 05:28:30 PM
Hi martijn.

I thought would try with a completely empty project so I did the following:


I work at 24bit and 48kHz. Would that have anything to do with it?
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: orbit1 on July 10, 2014, 09:57:24 PM
I was just reading in the other forum.... could it be related to this one (http://112db.com/forum/index.php?topic=7594.0) found in the big blue compressor?
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: martijn on July 10, 2014, 10:22:39 PM
That bug was a 64 bit addressing bug. If you would run Cubase in 32 bit mode than the bug should never occur...

It was very difficult to reproduce. On certain systems it never crashed, on others it crashed all the time. I really thought we did fix that though...

just for test: if you run Cubase in 32 bit, do these crashes completely i mean absolutely completely disappear?

-Martijn-
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: orbit1 on July 17, 2014, 07:18:54 PM
Hi Martijn,

I can't get this to consistently crash. Its seems like a very moody plugin.
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: martijn on July 20, 2014, 11:44:45 AM
I have a project that crashes 100% in Cubase 7.5.20 64 bit on OSX Mavericks now.

Stay tuned,

-Martijn-
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: orbit1 on July 22, 2014, 07:26:33 PM
I wait with baited breath.

 ;D
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: orbit1 on August 05, 2014, 05:02:57 AM
I have a project that crashes 100% in Cubase 7.5.20 60 bit on OSX Mavericks now.

Stay tuned,

-Martijn-

Hi Martijn, any progress on this?
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: nousch on August 05, 2014, 04:45:17 PM
Hi Martijn, any progress on this?

At the moment we are very busy with the last few adjustments to the AAX-plugins for MAC OS. We'll do some bug fixes (including this one) when that's all done. Hopefully next week. Not that we think it's less important, but working at two things at the same time in the same code base makes trouble shooting very difficult.

--nousch
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: orbit1 on August 06, 2014, 03:16:09 PM
Hey nousch!

Thanks for the reply, was just after an update!

:D
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: orbit1 on October 01, 2014, 09:00:46 PM
hi guys, any news? its been a while.
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: martijn on October 02, 2014, 09:17:36 AM
Hi,

We have been quite busy with AAX for Protools on OS X and Windows. This is more or less done now. Right now we reallocated all our resources on stability and bug fixing. We did discover several potential issues and are fixing them as we speak. There will be an update coming soon.

Regards,

-Martijn-
Title: Re: Nuendo 6 - constant crashes with Redline EQ now.
Post by: neilwilkes on November 08, 2014, 04:10:48 PM
Thanks for the info, Martijn - much appreciated.
Really looking forward to being able to use these reliably - you're up there with my beloved UAD.